VIEWPOINT # 2
VANSILK
COLD STRUGGLE-LIFE
OF A HIPHOP PIONEER.
EXCERPTS FROM
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01-TITANIUM - Finally we get to speak to you?
VAN SILK - Same here, I guess I'm in for the third degree now since I committed
to this interview, you know I really don't do interviews anymore. Since some
folks have the tendency to change things. I'm one of the most misunderstood
niggas around.
02-TITANIUM - No we are different, we keep it real here?
VAN SILK - Great, about time someone is trying to be real. I have a real problem
with some of these nuts in the music industry. Always asking the same old shit.
They get things confused with me asking me about the old school, we can talk
about the new school also. The old school is part of my life, and when you dwell
on old times you never progress in life, so I'm the type of person who is always
looking to progress in life.
03-TITANIUM-For those who will read this interview, many do not know you are
considered a HIP HOP PIONEER?
VAN SILK-Yeah that cool and all, but my role is something I cherish, some
peeps got it twisted about me. I did my bid for Hip Hop and I'm very happy with
life. Life can be better, but I have no reason to complain. Just don't confuse
me as some old played out old head. If that is the case, then some got it all
wrong. We came at a time in the 70's of creating a new way of living for all
coming from the ghetto, and the pioneers ran with it. When I say pioneers, I'm
talking 1st generation of HIP HOPPERS. Today the term old skool is used wrong. I
was watching 106 & Park one day, and they decided to play an old skool video and
came with a MASE video. I was laughing my head off. They need better writers or
understanding of music history or even better, hip hop history for these shows.
As our people keep downgrading everything we do, we need to come with a better
term than old skool. Afrika Bambaatta calls it true skool…to me old skool is an
insult to everyone.
04-TITANIUM-How long have you been down with HIP HOP?
VAN SILK-Too damn long, for real it will be almost 30 years as being down,
not as fan or someone who was at the jams back in the dayz. If I had to go back
and remember things, then you talking DJ HOLLYWOOD at Smalls Paradise (1971), or
even the late Grandmaster Flowers from Brooklyn (1969). Then you had Pete DJ
Jones (1967), and other before Kool Herc, Afrika Bambaataa, &Grandmaster Flash,
but It wasn't Hip Hop, it was Disco, and there are a lot of people who dedicated
their lives and soul into this, which a lot of you don't even know about. The
formula was there, and the New School (1973), which turned out to be us, added
some flava to it. It's a damn shame how MTV can't give props to the real Hip
Hop pioneers. And I'm not talking Russell Simmons he came late into the game
around 1979, we was doing this around 1973. Russell Simmons did a lot for rap
music, but as far as real Hip Hop he did nothing for it. People confuse HIPHOP
and RAP MUSIC. Meaning that HIPHOP is a culture and Rap music is part of that
culture. But rappers are all we see today. HIPHOP has 5 elements; how can a
radio station be the best in HIPHOP, when you only can display 2 of the
elements. So a lot of people should represent the term as RAP music.
05-TITANIUM-So you were born and raised where?
VAN SILK-Oh you really want to know everything. Born and raised in the South
Bronx. I came from Patterson Projects on 143rd Street & Brook Ave It was 281
East 143rd Street. My family and I moved from there when I was 7 years old. NBA
great, Nate Archibald, & Boxer Iran Barkley, came from Patterson Projects. 18
Park, now a famous park for jams, right behind was my building. I think rappers
Showbiz & A.G are from there also, the "Diggin in the Crate crew". Then my
parents, God bless my mother soul who passed in March 2000, moved us to John
Adams projects, 156 Street & Westchester Ave. in 1965.
06-TITANIUM-Now you know we did our research and found out some things about
you, so we would like to clear the air about the rumors and other things?
VAN SILK-What things are you talking about, if I think you are going where
you are, then we can cut this interview now. But I will clear the air on certain
matters. I just feel that it's not for everyone to know certain r\things. Some
people today feel like they have to expose themselves to make a point in life.
You knew me for a long time, and I have nothing to prove to anyone about my past
life. Some want to live it, but that was my life at one time.
07-TITANIUM-Well, if you feel we are getting to noisy let us know.
VAN SILK-On the real son, you were getting there, but like I said, I'm
willing to clear the air for this once, and then we can move on. So hit me with
it.
08-TITANIUM-Well the rumors circulating in the music industry, some years ago
that you were associated with the Mafia?
VAN SILK- That depends on what you are talking about. I know a lot of
Italians and that does not mean anything.
09-TITANIUM-Ok, so let's keep it funky right now.
VAN SILK-You know this is about to get cut short but go ahead and ask me?
10-TITANIUM-Is is true you use to work for the porn people who owned Show World
& the Gambino porn boss Richard Basciano as one of his managers around 1977?
VAN SILK-First of all, who is telling you all this information? And why is it
important to anyone? I know that the other magazines out there are having peeps
talking about their lives, but come on man this has nothing to do with Hip Hop.
Everyone wants to have some claim to fame as mobsters, but the real life of La
Cosa Nostra is nothing to play with. But to be honest with you we have more rats
in this business, then what's running around the hoods and ghettos. All I have
to say is, if you have no clue about that life then shut up to all the want to
be gangsters. If you so real, we all know that you never open your mouth. You
can get whacked for speaking on shit you never experienced. You can get whacked
for not doing what you suppose to do, you can get whacked for killing a made
member of a family. It's funny how rappers want to be mobsters, as much these
niggas talk. A lot of these fools should have been dead already because they
really don't understand the life of a real Goodfella. Niggas bickering and
bitching on who did what for real with all these rap battles. No one has step up
to the plate and battle for some real paper. Sometimes time I wonder if these
niggas are for real or acting like a half fag. I respect everyone in the game. I
have no beefs with no one. And on the other hand I still run with 2 crews, who
have my back at any given moment.
11-TITANIUM-We just wanted to ask you that, because some peeps in the industry
have mentioned your name some years back about this?
VAN SILK-Personally it's no ones fuckin business at all, it always some
playin hatin asshole trying to stop some one from getting any paper. Where did
you get this information from first of all, and to say names of people you don't
know at all is not cool. Just because a nigga is not in the forefront doesn't
mean shit. I have been around for 3 decades, building a new family to do things
with. The clock is turning around on these corny frauds, it may sound like hatin,
but who gives a flying fuck what the next person thinks. We as a people don't
control shit. I could care less of what kind of car you are driving or how your
crib looks at the end of the day, what equity do you have? When the game is over
it's over son. We are not building communities, or even buying property for our
kids or setting up our next generations of family to live right. When I see how
some are spending papers on bullshit like the worst graded diamonds or Sprewells
rims then I know we have fallen back. If you got the paper these days you can
buy a Grammy, you can buy radio, you can buy anything when it comes to the music
industry, you can buy airplay on radio to play your song. That been going on for
the longest, and we wonder why some BLACKS acts are not even worth there weigh
as an artists. We have no control or the power ink to make real deal happen.
Then we wonder why we look like a bunch of jigga boos ass niggas wondering what
went wrong. Get into real estate and fix up your community. Then maybe this
generation can really call it a HIPHOP community. Stop making the other people
rich buying their shit. I bet Jacob the Jeweler is laughing his ass off. Go to
Chris Aire let him get the paper. I bet no one of another race is buying our
shit directly. Our people have been exploited again, this time with
materialistic shit at a high ass price.
12-TITANIUM-Well to be honest, it was from someone you know, and they felt that
you are living a life of mad skeletons in the closets.
VAN SILK-Well that someone needs to get a fuckin life. That shit was so long
ago why niggas keep bringing that old shit up. That shit is like trying to get
rid of a bad habit. First I heard that he mob put up the 1.5 million for my Hip
Hop pay per view special RAPMANIA in 1991. Then some rapper told my girl then
who is now my ex when we got together, don't fuck with Van silk because he down
with the mob. And he know who is bitch ass is too. To me all this shit is corny,
live life for today and lets forget what happen years ago. I don't see anyone
asking Don king some dumb shit like that. And he keeps it gangsta all the time.
VAN SILK hangs up the phone on us and for the last 2 days we were trying to
contact him. Finally we got back in contact with him, and he decided to talk to
be open about what he feels is a misconception about him. Personally he told
Titanium it really makes no matter to him what people think. After we contacted
him again we continue to make this interview happen once again.
End Of Part 1
Continued in August's Issue For Part 2,
Part 3 and
Part 4